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Nov 3, 2020

Marvin Williams, Mike and Ryan have known each other for more than 20 years. In 1999, covered in Spartan Green and the smell of youthful exuberance, this trio came together in the streets of East Lansing, Michigan.

Marvin and McD have worked through several businesses together and are currently scaling Williams' company, Logical Owl. Most of our listeners know quite a bit about different projects and companies that our hosts hustle on - but Mike and Marvin haven't caught up much in the past decade. This episode is really dives deep with a mid-career entrepreneur who shares honestly.

Don't spend your time checking out some some self-help guru who has spent several years speculating on how and why the world works the way it does. conventioNOT brings another qualified expert on creating something from scratch. 

True to that point, one of Marvin's first pieces of advice is to STEAL what you can. It's not necessary to reinvent the wheel in business. Let us be clear, this dude isn't suggesting corporate espionage. He's suggesting to get in where you fit in and on this episode, he's brutally honest about.

You'll have to listen to hear more and we want our subscribers to decide why Marvin and his endeavors come up as winners time and time again.