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Sep 30, 2019

This is the first interview episode of the conventioNOT podcast and features Dan, a long time leader who started the first three decades of his life on a really tough path. 

We decided to release this show again, for a bunch of reasons. Mike talks about them in the intro. Even if you've heard it before, we think it bears another listen. 

This hour long show gets deep into his story, which included more than a few run-ins with addiction and hard luck. Today, his 80+ person business dedicates itself to working with and helping recovering team members find their own happiness. 

Before we get into the happy parts - we spend some really serious time delving into the idea that spiraling out of control can be a real risk for anybody - even if things look okay from the outside in.